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22.01.2025 01:52

spintakki

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

Dank dir selber, dann kannst du froh sein! Ein bisschen Lob und Anerkennung tut jedem gut

Paragraphenreiter gibt's... Und ich dachte, die gibt es nur in Deutschland

08.01.2025 19:40

Enban

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

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Why should somebody here in the forum apologize for bad work of the ITTF website responsible?

I know you will continue this nonsense.
Anyway you should apologize not because of ITTF's mistake but you continue to insist that there was no mistake & continuring to bully me & strong arm me

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Look, for me this is a failure and no player had serious issues with it.

So you know for sure that not a single incident would not have occured if this mistake was not fixed ?

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So you could blame the ITTF for this, but a "real" problem does not exist.
Or was any player sanctioned so far by this mistake of the ITTF?

No but I know for sure several Tournament Directors were concerned & contacted ITTF or local affiliates & prevented the problem from happening to start with. The problem was detected by me as soon as it happened. .
But instead of thanking me and apologizing to me you continue to bully me.
Enjoy

08.01.2025 17:11

masl83

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

Why should somebody here in the forum apologize for bad work of the ITTF website responsible?

Look, for me this is a failure and no player had serious issues with it. So you could blame the ITTF for this, but a "real" problem does not exist.

Or was any player sanctioned so far by this mistake of the ITTF?

08.01.2025 15:34

Enban

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

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There is only one person in this conversation who is producing a clown show by using different accounts and creating issues and problems where there are none.

Hello,
If the owners of this forum stop blindly worshipping ITTF and deleting my important posts & then suspending my account, this problem won't be here. But in all fairness this forum is little more open minded than other forums. Other forums are lot more corrupt.

Note from the moderatorsYour posts had not been deleted. Unfortunately, you sometimes have trouble finding your own posts because you open multiple parallel threads. Additionally, your posts often have a "spam-like" nature, and some of them have been moved to this central thread.

Furthermore, since you tend to be somewhat resistant to advice, your original account "Carline" has been temporarily suspended for a few days as a cooling-off period. However, this account had been reinstated once the temporary suspension expired, so there is absolutely no reason to create a new account.

You should still reconsider how you engage in the forum. Instead of repeatedly bringing up the same topics over and over again, it would be more effective if you clearly and coherently expressed what you actually want - without conspiracy theories. This way, other users would be more likely to take you seriously.

If you behave similarly in other forums, it’s perhaps no surprise that you seem to have even more issues there than you do here.

Then, a final note regarding your statements in your post:

We have no idea how you came to the conclusion that the owners of this forum "blindly worship the ITTF." We are an independent platform, completely unaffiliated with any national or international federations, and regarding your constantly recurring topics about pimpled rubbers, we have absolutely no connection to the ITTF. Therefore, your statements are complete nonsense and perfectly fit the pattern.

It's nice that you find our forum "a little more open-minded" compared to others. We cannot and do not want to judge whether other forums are corrupt in any way. However, you wrote, "Other forums are a lot more corrupt," which, by implication, means that you consider our forum at least somewhat corrupt as well. Just to make this crystal clear: If you make any further claims in this regard, the forum owner will bury you unceremoniously and then throw you out of the forum without hesitation – meaning you will actually be permanently banned. Such statements are absolutely unacceptable.

The TT-NEWS portal, founded in 1999, hosts the world's largest table tennis forum outside of China, with 3,652,699 posts across 529,329 topics, contributed by 606,362 registered users. The forum owner himself has been a professional coach for national teams and clubs in the German 1st Bundesliga (TTBL), other top European leagues, and the European Champions League for well over two decades, in addition to being a self-employed entrepreneur since 1997. Therefore, you should be very careful with any baseless claims.

I am actually thankful to this forum for helping me recover myself from ITTF's 30 year long second brainwashing about dumb rackets with the topic
https://forum.tt-news.de/showthread.php?t=550825
Regardless as this topic shows, I had to work hard to prove that there was a mistake by ITTF.
Yet even now ITTF & everyone here is acting like this was a minor issue & not even apologize to me & other players. I realize every one makes mistakes but you do not have the basic human decency to acknowledge & apologize just because it was me who pointed out the error.
No problem. I am used to this kind of abuse from 1998 since ITTF continues to lie claiming that LONG pips still exist in table tennis (& choppers are the biggest fools to continue to fall for this lie)
This is why I also have no doubt 90% of table tennis players are biggest crooks in many ways with no conscience or remorse

08.01.2025 10:36

masl83

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

There is only one person in this conversation who is producing a clown show by using different accounts and creating issues and problems where there are none.

08.01.2025 10:17

Eddie Vedder

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

Problem is already solved.

08.01.2025 09:07

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AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

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I have been in contact with ITTF yesterday regarding this topic. This is a mistake that will be solved soon.

This is a clown show. Has any software engineer heard of a document tested live like this LOL ?
You do not release a document that is still being tested as live to cause mass confusion.
They should have kept the old format until the new format of the document was 100% ready.
The confusion is caused because the document was partially ready (with 580 or so rubbers having sponge colors but others not etc.) but have an illusion that it was fully ready.

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The ITTF Referees and Umpires are informed about it.

Where is this document that informs umpires located ?

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During the preparation process the certain columns were already added to the files while they are hidden on the frontpage. .

No. These fields are clearly visible in the Excel & PDF files.

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ITTF has informed the brands that these (sponges and OX versions) will be officially tested from 01.01.2026.

Are you saying that they will leave a test document as a final document for one more year (1.1.2026) ? LOL
Is this document going to be continually updated live ? If so they should remove the validity period statement at the top that says that this document is valid for the current year.
So what are they going to do ? Continually update all 3 versions (HTML, XLSX & PDF) live ? That is crazy
It would have made sense if they release the changes every 3 months like they did before (or at least every month).
We can sit here & argue all day but there is no point.
I am not an active umpire so I don't really care but I just stated how such serious errors in a very important document can lead to mass confusion for umpires & panic for pips players.
Because I received emails from pips haters who are already celebrating that OX pips rubbers are being scrutinized aggressively by the ITTF and many of them will be banned even after the mistake is fixed.
Many pips haters even claim that they will demand & insist that this document be treated as final document until error is fixed & I cannot blame them.
On the flip side most pips players feel that adding a column just for OX is a clear witch hunt & I cannot blame them either.
Because now pips haters start complaining & targetting each OX version.

Also it is not cleat to me when all these changes were authorized ? I do not see them authorized as a regulation change by the ITTF Executive council or as a rule change by general council at the 2024 AGM . Unless there was an EGM held after the AGM 2024 to approve these changes

08.01.2025 08:18

Eddie Vedder

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

I have been in contact with ITTF yesterday regarding this topic. This is a mistake that will be solved soon.

Background:
ITTF has informed the brands that these (sponges and OX versions) will be officially tested from 01.01.2026. During the preparation process the certain columns were already added to the files while they are hidden on the frontpage.
The ITTF Referees and Umpires are informed about it.

To sum it up: no need to worry. Rubbers are of course still allowed.

08.01.2025 00:49

Enban

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

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According to your logic every single rubber on the LARC would be disapproved, because none of the rubbers has an entry "Sponge Color".
So, the Sponge Color of all real rubbers differ from the LARC, therefore they are not approved.

Please check again for sponge color . There are quite a few rubbers with sponge color added. If you download the Excel version of LARC & sort on sponge color you will see it

See the attachment that shows a partial Excel file
The full list has 590 rubbers with sponge color specified

Also the sponge color column is NOT a YES or NO column (like the "Has OX rubber" column). If the color column is left blank it means there are no color restrictions for this specific rubber at this time. So you can use any color sponge with that rubber. (I assume sponge colors will be added, if there will be any in the future, for other rubbers)

07.01.2025 22:07

Allsquared

AW: Manika Batra's rubber has been de-approved by the ITTF

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