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| 14.03.2013 19:36 | ||
| Tsuyoshi |
AW: High throw. Zitat:
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| 18.01.2007 17:48 | ||
| kagin |
AW: High throw. In the united states, "high throw" almost always means "high throw angle" of the racket. I first heard of this term when the ASTI company used it perhaps 10-12 years ago, their definition can be found here: http://web.archive.org/web/199904232....com/page9.htm However i wouldn't be surprised if the term was first used in europe or asia. When someone is talking about a high ball in service, they say "high toss", not "high throw". Maybe some people who play at home say "throw" but all club players say "toss". "Pick" i'm not sure about, but i think they mean "pick-hit". A pick-hit is a strong attack that you make after playing a lot of safe balls, usually pushes. It's called a pick-hit because you're very careful to pick which ball to hit. A "float" is a shot similar to a chop, but always slow (sometimes chop is fast), and usually with no spin (usually chop has backspin). "Fishing" is playing topspin defense, different from lobbing because the ball is lower and usually faster. Fishing usually has good topspin and often sidespin but sometimes has only a little spin, but never backspin. |
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| 13.01.2007 09:04 | ||
| Tony_Iommi |
AW: High throw. Zitat:
Nevertheless, in commonly used (American English), an expression such as "high throw" would have been completely misinterpreted - that I can guarantee, with no doubts behind. However, trying to come up with a rather "technical" term, Klaus' quotes seem to make sense - but what do I know!!! Klaus, I think you did a good and save job along there. And very likely, your are save with your statements from a technical perspective. Little I know, and that is definitely based upon common American English only. Best wishes Dieter |
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| 13.01.2007 00:26 | ||
| Klaus123 |
AW: High throw. Ich zitiere: Definition: The throw angle of a rubber is whether the rubber tends to 'throw' the ball higher or lower when making the same stroke. Given the same return from your opponent, and the same stroke by you, a rubber that puts the ball in the net is considered to have a 'lower throw' than a rubber than puts the ball on the table. For the same circumstances, a rubber that puts the ball off the end of the table is considered to have a 'high throw'. You will sometimes hear players talk about 'degrees of throw' - basically a rubber than puts the ball low has a low degree of throw, and vice versa. This throw angle is not an exact science (contrary to what you might think from reading on the various forums!), but more of a comparative feel between different rubbers. A rubber with a high throw is not better or worse than a rubber with a low throw, it is just different. Generally, low throw rubbers are considered to be easier to play with against topspin, while high throw rubbers are supposed to be able to lift backspin over the net more easily. Also Known As: throw, degree of throw (Quelle: http://tabletennis.about.com/od/glos...hrow_angle.htm) "Throw" entspricht damit dem deutschen "Ballabsprung". |
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| 11.01.2007 05:28 | ||
| Tony_Iommi |
AW: High throw. Zitat:
Nevertheless, first of all, you are right. "High throw" is not linked to the catapult of a rubber (respectively, its sponge). But rather to the height of the throw upon a player's serve. But I somewhat miss the association to "your" encyclopedia?! Please shed some light here. Further to that, what does it say about "devastating material"? I almost get under the impression you used "Google" or whatever translating your - by all means-, rather mediocre and senseless post. Anyway, this is the first time I got offended publicly here at tt-news. I don't know why, but you must have your reasons. More importantly, the real Jimi - not a anonymously posting douchbag - I do highly respect and honor. Now it's your call buddy! Tony |
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| 11.01.2007 01:28 | ||
| Hendrix50 |
AW: High throw. We gotta keep this thread going, Toni. I still believe "high throw" hasn't got anything to do with a rubber's catapult effect. It refers to a player's service (Samsonov, Schlager) and its effect on the opponent. Hope we'll be able to hear some of your "devastating" material kept so far in one of your basement cabinets. My rock encyclopedia has it you play with only three fingers of your right hand. True? Well, if so, no wonder you can't do any better than the riff on "Paranoid" (like the song, though). |
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| 30.11.2006 06:19 | ||
| Tony_Iommi |
AW: High throw. Hi Klaus, Alright, I explicitly asked the guys whether or not they have heard (and actually use(d)) terms like: pick, fish and float. As madmatt stated previously, (to) "fish" can basically translate into "a passiv return, fairly away from the table, with the intention to just return the ball without purposely imposing neither spin nor speed". "Float" and "Pick", however, could not have been explained at all. Madmatt's statement might be right (float = Heber), however, wasn't confirmed by anybody I had spoken to. Anyway, all my comments are based upon my personal experience. And that, of course, is what I picked up since playing here in the States, and by talking to ordinary players. If you want to play it save, using proven technically sophisticated expressions, you may wanna approach USATT directly. They are usually very responsive and helpful. Otherwise, let me know and I will push it along...  cheers Dieter |
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| 24.11.2006 06:41 | ||
| Tony_Iommi |
AW: High throw. There you go! Of course, I am still playing. I got a whole bunch of unreleased stuff up in my cabinets which just devastatingly screams to be mastered and released... Anyway, back to the initial topic. Shame on me, I forgot to ask my pals about Klaus' open definitions. I'll do that once the guys return from their Baltimore-trip. Everybody seems to be be headed out to play the yearly team competitions. They should be back next week, assuming they are still able to walk at all after three days of constant playing. Alright, let's play it by ear and I'll shoot you a note once I know more.... Tony |
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| 24.11.2006 00:38 | ||
| Sriver Killer |
AW: High throw. He's still playing. I saw Black Sabbath last year on tour at the Westfalenhalle Dortmund. 
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| 23.11.2006 21:44 | ||
| Hendrix50 |
AW: High throw. "High throw" is Samsonow's backhand service. And Toni Iommi used to be the lead guitarist with Black Sabbath (or is he still playing?). |
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