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Truffel 11.02.2006 18:47

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Zitat:

Zitat von Josip
there is one name missing: MA LONG!!! :boing:

and there is a other good koreaner player, too, but i forgot his name, maybe somebody other knows?

I think you mean Lee Jung Woo.
The Japanese un Mizutani is also very good. But none of them will become equal to Waldner.

User 18150 03.09.2007 11:36

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This is a very charmful question ! Great to discuss more as in Past tense here......

Waldner is the greatest player in the last 30 years. Have you any chance to get more as Waldner. I do not think so !
All times you have greater players with a good feeling, very good conditions and with the eyes of a tiger to win the big points ! In the last five years, this thread started 2001, some players are coming.

For the Future i see many possibilitys for Ovtcharov and Baum !!
What is your opinion ?

Carter 78 04.09.2007 01:16

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Zitat:

Zitat von ILCHEV (Beitrag 952233)
Waldner is the greatest player in the last 30 years. Have you any chance to get more as Waldner. I do not think so !

In my opinion, we in Europe we shall not miss to look at the great chinese players. I am not sure, if the best chinese players had not been better in their time they played (for example Liu Guoliang or now Wang Liqin). Waldner played much longer, than the best chinese players. Shall we compare the duration of a 10 year career with a 30 year career?

For sure, Waldner is unique and will stay unmatched forever! He wasn´t always the best, but he put his stamp on tabletennis like noone did before. No young talented player will ever be able to follow his steps.
Zitat:

Zitat von ILCHEV (Beitrag 952233)
For the Future i see many possibilitys for Ovtcharov and Baum !!

Baum will become a good german player like Hielscher and Fejer-Konnerth but he will not be able to reach world´s TOP-30 rankings. Ovtcharov is able to become a world class player and reach world rankings between 8 and 20.

Juri Stroganoff 04.09.2007 17:04

Zitat:

Zitat von Carter 78 (Beitrag 952897)

In my opinion, we in Europe shall not miss to look at the great chinese players. I am not sure, if the best chinese players had not been better in their time they played than Waldner...

Jiang Jialiang in his heydays (1984-1987) surely matched Waldner. Liu Guoliang and Wang Liqin came close to him.

User 18150 04.09.2007 22:44

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Carter 78, please compare :

Appelgren and Lindh ! Ovtcharov and Baum !
Appelgren = Ovtcharov
Lindh = Baum

I say this is possibel, the style of them and also the quantitys and qualitys of the championships. I know this opinion is a risk to say today !

Ovtcharov will be better, step by step, not only the position in world-ranking, i mean the quality of his playing.

Baum will stay a long time the same level, he needs time - i believe 2 - 4 years playing international championsships - then he shoot up ...........

Best reagards Carter 78
Bernhard ilchev

Tony_Iommi 05.09.2007 16:52

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ILCHEV,

Some quite ambitious statements. But, admittedly, especially Ovtcharov was playing - overall - consistently well over the course of the past few months. So, I can see where you're coming from. Nevertheless, I wouldn't declare victory prematurely - when a young Timo Boll had entered the scene, people spoke of a new "Waldner". Well, we all know that he never quite got there (and I say that with all the respect to Timo Boll, who is a great player, doubtlessly).

Nevertheless, it's amazing that there's a bunch of young German players with a lot of potential. However, as of now, I cannot see any who can reach up to Waldner's level.

User 18150 05.09.2007 21:20

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Yes Toni, correct. Ovtcharov and Baum i don´t see the level and the quality as Jan-Ove Waldner. My Opinion is, i see two players with motivation and a strong leader behind them to push up in the scene !!

And by the way, Baum has a very dangerous dynamite in his Hand.............

Greetings to New Jersey !!
Bernhard ilchev

Tony_Iommi 06.09.2007 03:49

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I happened to see some bits and pieces of the DTTL today (only the doubles). I was quite impressed with Suess' consistency and gutsy shots.

Jancsi 12.09.2007 23:51

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Nobody can compete with Waldner, he is simply The Pele of table tennis. There is no doubt why he is called the "Mozart of table tennis". He is the greatest ever.

Best regards from Good Old Germany,

Jancsi

dave51 25.01.2008 01:06

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samsonov is pretty high up there with waldner,

he's a multiple european champion,

he now just needs to win a world or olympic championship,


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