Hölzer (Sammelthread): Aufbau vieler populärer Hölzer; Furnierkombinationen

[marion76]

weiß den aufbau vom SP-contact keiner????

[serxas]

Zitat von marion76

weiß den aufbau vom SP-contact keiner????

Ich meine irgendwo gelesen zu haben, dass der Furnieraufbau das gleiche ist wie beim Samson. Alpha, jedoch ist Balsa im Griff zusätzlich noch eingebaut, was als "Premium Contact" verkauft wird.

[Kyuss]

Ich kann den Aufbau nicht benennen, aber S. alpha udn S. Premium conatct sind anders aufbaut.
S. alpha ist dünner , rel. dicker Kern und dünnere weitere Furniere, das Premium hat die Furniere aussen nicht so dünn im Vergleich zum Kern udn zwei rote , rel. dicke Mittefurniere, ähnlich wie beim Clipper.
Das neue S. Premium conatct hat nedmals mehr den Contact-griff mit dem Balsaquader drin.

[marion76]

mich interessieren hölzer mit der kombi:

limba - spruce - Abachi - spruce - limba

kann jemand die hölzer:

stiga off classic
Avalox BT555
Yinhe earth3
Xiom Aria

vergleichen?
den avx bt555 wird zb nachgesagt, es sei weicher und hat mehr katapult wie das stiga off classic, wieso? furnierdicke, verklebung?
bislang konnte ich noch keine hölzer entdecken, die jeweils noch ein zusätzlichen furnier haben!??

limba - spruce - XXX - Abachi - XXX - spruce - limba

gibts sowas überhaupt?

dank euch! :-)

[EnLight]

warum böse marke mit forenverbot ? :X

[Der Gesperrte]

Ergänzend zum Butterfly Kong Linghui: (Nicht getrennt Kong Ling Hui geschrieben)
Butterfly Kong Linghui: (Urversion) Koto - Spruce - Abachi - Spruce - Koto
Butterfly Kong Linghui OFF: Koto - Spruce - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Spruce - Koto
Butterfly Kong Linghui Special: Hinoki - Carbon/Arylate - Kiri - Carbon/Arylate - Hinoki

[Presswurst]

Nittaku Redshank :
Limba-Koto-Carbon-Kiri-Carbon-Koto-Limba

[Der Eine DDA]

Adidas Fibetec Power: Limba – Aramid Carbon – Abachi – Kiri - Abachi – Aramid Carbon – Limba

Andro CS7 Pro OFF: 7 Abachi Furniere (alle gleich dick) CS=Christian Süss
Andro CS7 Tour OFF: Limba-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Limba
Andro CS7 Velocity OFF+: Hinoki-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Hinoki
Andro C. Suss Hinoki All+ : hinoki - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - hinoki
Andro C. Suss Hinoki Off : hinoki - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - hinoki
Andro Kinetic ALL+ : limba - limba - abachi - abachi - limba - limba
Andro Kinetic Supreme Z-Fiber/Hinoki Off-: Hinoki-Zlf-Abachi-Kiri-Abachi-Zlf-Hinoki

Armstrong Tactic: Nussbaum - Limba - Abachi - Limba - Nussbaum

Avalox BT555 : limba - spruce - Abachi - spruce - limba
Avalox P500: koto - spruce - Abachi - spruce - koto
Avalox P700: limba - meranti - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - meranti - limba

Banda Waldner: Limba-Spruce-Abachi-Spruce-Limba
Banda Offensiv: Limba-Spruce-Abachi-Spruce-Limba

Butterfly Adolescen: limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Butterfly All Hinoki 5: 5 Kiso-Hinoki Furniere
Butterfly All Hinoki 7: 7 Kiso Hinoki Furniere
Butterfly Amultart: hinoki - zlc - kiri - zlc - hinoki
Butterfly Balsacarbo X5: basswood - carbon - balsa - carbon - basswood
Butterfly Defence II: 3 Weide Furniere
Butterfly Gergely alpha: cypress - carbon laminate - kiri - carbon laminate - cypress
Butterfly Gergely Tamca 5000: cypress - carbon laminate - kiri - carbon laminate - cypress (7.0mm)
Butterfly Innerforce ALC: limba - limba - alc - Abachi - alc - limba - limba
Butterfly Innerforce ZLC: limba - limba - zlc - Abachi - zlc - limba - limba
Butterfly Innerforce ZLF: limba - limba - zlf - Abachi - zlf - limba - limba
Butterfly Jonyer-Hinoki: 5 ply all hinoki
Butterfly Joo Se Hyuk: planchonello - poplar - kiri - poplar- planchonello
Butterfly Jun Mizutani: limba - zlc - limba - kiri - limba - zlc - limba
Butterfly Kazan: hinoki - walnut - balsa - walnut - hinoki
Butterfly Keyshot alpha: hinoki - arylate - kiri - arylate - hinoki
Butterfly Keyshot Light: Abachi - arylate - kiri - arylate - Abachi
Butterfly Kim Taek Soo: hinoki 10.3
Butterfly Kiso Hinoki V: 5 Kiso Hinoki Furniere
Butterfly Kiso Hinoki VII: 7 Kiso Hinoki Furniere
Butterfly Kong Linghui (Urversion): Koto - Spruce - Abachi - Spruce - Koto
Butterfly Kong Linghui OFF: Koto - Spruce - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Spruce - Koto
Butterfly Kong Linghui Special: Hinoki - ALC - Kiri - ALC - Hinoki
Butterfly Korbel Sk7: Limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Limba
Butterfly Kreanga Carbon : hinoki - ULC - kiri - ULC - hinoki
Butterfly Kumpuru: limba - carbon laminate - Abachi - carbon laminate - limba
Butterfly Liu Shiwen: limba - limba - zlf - Abachi - zlf - limba - limba
Butterfly Maze Passion : Limba - Glasfiber - Spruce - Abachi - Spruce - Glasfiber - Limba
Butterfly M. Maze: limba - alc - limba - Abachi - limba - alc - limba
Butterfly Oh Sang Eun : koto - koto - Abachi - koto - koto
Butterfly Primorac: limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Butterfly Primorac Carbon: cypress - carbon laminate - kiri - carbon laminate - cypress
Butterfly Petr Korbel: limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Butterfly Photino: hinoki - zylon - kiri - zylon - hinoki
Butterfly Schlager Carbon OFF+: cypress - carbon laminate - balsa - carbon laminate - cypress
Butterfly Schlager Prezision : Koto - Spruce - Abachi - Spruce - Koto
Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit: koto - alc - limba - kiri - limba - alc - koto
Butterfly Timo Boll W5: koto - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - koto
Butterfly Timo Boll W7: koto - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - koto
Butterfly Viscaria: koto - alc - limba - kiri - limba - alc - koto
Butterfly Zhang Yining: limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba

Cornilleau Hinotec ALL+ : hinoki - limba - Abachi - limba - hinoki
Cornilleau Hinotec OFF- : hinoki - limba - Abachi - limba - hinoki
Cornilleau Hinotec OFF : hinoki - limba - kiri - limba - hinoki
Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+ : hinoki - carbon - kiri - carbon -hinoki

Dawei GTS: hinoki - arylate/carbon - Abachi - arylate/carbon - hinoki
Dawei Wavestone: limba - arylate/carbon - Abachi - arylate/carbon - limba

Donic Alligator Combi:limba - acajou - balsa - abachi - ash
Donic Appelgren Allplay: limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Donic Appelgren Dotec Control: Limba-Dotec-Abachi-Dotec+Balsa-Abachi-Dotec-Limba
Donic Baum Sawtec: Abachi(0,8mm) - Abachi(1,5mm) - Abachi (2,0mm) - Abachi(1,5mm) - Abachi(0,8mm)
Donic Burn All+: mahogany - awan - kiri - awan - mahogany
Donic Burn Aratox: Koto-Kiri-Aratox-Kiri-Aratox-Kiri-Koto
Donic Burn Aratox RS: Mahagoni-Kiri-Aratox-Kiri-Aratox-Kiri-Mahagoni
Donic Burn Carbotox: Mahagoni-Kiri-Carbotox-Kiri-Carbotox-Kiri-Mahagoni
Donic Burn Off-: mahogany - awan - kiri - awan - mahogany
Donic Burn Off: mahogany - awan - kiri - awan - mahogany
Donic Carbo System Off: Koto-aramid/carbon-Abachi-Kiri-Abachi-aramid/carbon-Koto
Donic Defplay Classic Senso: Koto-Abachi-Balsa-Balsa-Abachi-Koto
Donic Dicon: limba - spruce - Abachi - spruce - limba
Donic Dima Sawtec: koto(0,8mm) - kiri(1,0mm) - kiri(2,5mm) - kiri(1,0mm) - koto(0,8mm)
Donic Liping Kitex: kiso hinoki - Abachi - texalium - kiri - texalium - Abachi - kiso hinoki
Donic Opticon: Buche - Abachi - Balsa - Abachi - Buche
Donic Opticon RS: Buche - Abachi - Balsa - Abachi - Buche
Donic Persson Carbotec: koto - carbon/glass - tanne - kiri - tanne - carbon/glass - koto
Donic Persson Dotec Off: Hinoki(0,6mm)-Dotec-Koto (0,6mm)-Dotec+Balsa(5mm)-Koto (0,6mm)-Dotec-Hinoki (0,6mm)
Donic Persson Exclusive Off: limba - koto - balsa - koto - limba
Donic Persson Impuls 7,0: Buche - Koto - Balsa - Abachi - Balsa - Koto - Buche
Donic Persson Impuls Off: Buche - Koto - Balsa - Abachi - Balsa - Koto - Buche
Donic Persson Powerallround: Limba-Limba-Abachi-Limba-Limba
Donic Powerplay : koto - foil - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - foil - koto
Donic Waldner: Limba-Spruce-Abachi-Spruce-Limba
Donic Waldner Allround : Limba-Limba-Abachi-Limba-Limba
Donic Waldner Black Devil: Koto (schwarz gefärbt) - Carbon - Koto - Balsa - Koto - Carbon - Koto (schwarz gefärbt)
Donic Waldner Black Power: Limba (schwarz gefärbt) - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Limba (schwarz gefärbt)
Donic Waldner Carbopower: Hinoki - Arylate/Carbon - Kiri-Arylate/Carbon - Hinoki (im Griffbereich statt der Kiri Mittellage - 3 Holzschichten als Kernfurnier)
Donic Waldner Diablo Senso: Limba-Glasfiber-Abachi-Glasfiber-Limba
Donic Waldner Dicon: Limba-Spruce-Abachi-Spruce-Limba
Donic Waldner Dotec AR: Limba (0,6mm)-Dotec-Limba (0,6mm)-Dotec+Balsa(4,5mm)-Limba (0,6mm)-Dotec-Limba(0,6mm)
Donic Waldner Dotec Carbon: Limba(0,6mm)-Limba(0,6mm)-Carbon-Balsa-Carbon-Limba(0,6mm)-Limba(0,6mm)
Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki: kiso hinoki - kiso hinoki - kiso hinoki
Donic Waldner Exclusive AR+: Limba - Koto - Abachi - Koto - Limba
Donic Waldner Impuls 6,0: Buche - Koto - Balsa - Abachi - Balsa - Koto - Buche
Donic Waldner Impuls All: Buche - Koto - Balsa - Abachi - Balsa - Koto - Buche
Donic Waldner Legend Carbon: Hinoki - Carbon - Kiri - Carbon - Hinoki
Donic Waldner Offensiv (40): Limba-Spruce-Abachi-Spruce-Limba
Donic Waldner Senso Carbon: Limba-Limba-Carbon-Abachi-Carbon-Limba-Limba
Donic Waldner Senso Ultra Carbon: Limba-Abachi-Carbon-Abachi-Carbon-Abachi-Limba
Donic Waldner V1/V2 : Limba-Spruce-Abachi-Spruce-Limba
Donic Wang Xi Dotec Control Plus: Limba(0,6mm)-Abachi(0,6mm)-Dotec-Kiri(3,5mm)-Dotec-Abachi(0,6mm)-Limba(0,6mm)

DHS H-WL: limba - meranti - Abachi - meranti - limba
DHS Hurricane Hao: koto - spruce - Abachi - spruce - koto
DHS Hurricane King: koto - spruce - Abachi - spruce - koto

Yinhe Bogen: American Hinoki-Carbon-Kiri-Carbon-American Hinoki
Yinhe Arbalest Thor: limba - carbon - balsa - carbon - limba
Yinhe Lanze: limba - carbon - balsa - carbon - limba
Yinhe Speer: limba - carbon - balsa - carbon - limba
Galaxy/Yinhe T10: cypress - carbon - balsa - carbon - cypress
Galaxy/Yinhe T11: limba - carbon - balsa - carbon - limba
Galaxy/Yinhe M-4: limba-limba-Abachi-limba-limba


Hallmark Aurora: Limba-Nussbaum-Balsa-Abachi-Koto


Hunter Hawk: poplar - bass - poplar (4.3mm)

Joola Chen Weixing: limba - koto - black cloth - kiri - black cloth - koto - limba
Joola Fetzner Carat: Mahagoni-Mahagoni-Fichte-Mahagoni-Mahagoni
Joola Fever: limba - carbon meliorate - Abachi - kiri - Abachi - carbon meliorate - limba
Joola K5 : limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Joola Rosskopf Fire ( alt ): Limba - Limba - Abachi - Limba - Abachi - Limba - Limba
Joola Rosskopf Force: hinoki - carbon - kiri - carbon - hinoki
Joola Trix Fast: cypress - spruce - x (balsa/carbon) - spruce - cypress
Joola Trix Medium: samba - enzo - lilac - samba - enzo - samba
Joola Wing Fast: hinoki - Abachi - kiri - Abachi - hinoki
Joola Wing Medium: koto - Abachi - kiri - Abachi - koto


LKT Abachi Hinoki: Abachi-Hinoki-Abachi-Hinoki-Abachi
LKT Instinct: Abachi-Basswood-Abachi-Basswood-Abachi


Nexy Color: hinoki - spruce - Abachi - spruce - hinoki
Nexy Spear: limba - spruce - Abachi - spruce - limba

Nimatsu Tsunami Combi Attack: (0,6mm) limba - (2,0mm) balsa - (6,0mm) balsa - (2,0mm) balsa - (0,6mm) Abachi

Nittaku Acoustic: limba - limba - tung tree - limba - limba
Nittaku Clout: 5 Kiso Hinoki Furniere
Nittaku Ludeack: limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Limba
Nittaku Redshank: Limba-Koto-Carbon-Kiri-Carbon-Koto-Limba
Nittaku Rutis: walnut - GCarbon - Kiri - GCarbon - walnut
Nittaku Septear: 7 ply all hinoki
Nittaku Violin: white ash - white ash - kiri - white ash - white ash
Nittaku Wang Nan: koto - spruce - Abachi - spruce - koto

Stiga Allround Classic: limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - limba
Stiga Allround Evolution: limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - limba
Stiga Clipper: limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - limba
Stiga Ebenholz NCT V: ebony - spruce - Abachi - spruce - ebony
Stiga Energy Wood: limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - limba
Stiga Intesity NCT: Nussbaum-Fichte-Abachi-Fichte-Nussbaum
Stiga Offensive ( von ca. 1982 bis ca. 1986 ): Nussbaum - Spruce - Abachi - Spruce - Nussbaum
( die Version mit dem gefärbten Koto Deckfurnier kam erst ab 1986/87 )
Stiga Offensive Classic Old: koto - spruce - Abachi - spruce - koto
Stiga Offensive Classic New: (black walnut/limba) - spruce - Abachi - spruce - (black walnut/limba)
Stiga Offensive Evolution : Nussbaum -Limba(rot gefärbt)- Abachi - Limba(rot gefärbt)-Nussbaum
Stiga Tube Offensive: limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - limba

Sword V6: Limba-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Limba
Sword V8: Koto-Hinoki-Abachi-Hinoki-Koto

Taico 80 : Limba - Limba - Abachi - Limba - Limba
Taico 100 : Hinoki - Rosenholz - Abachi - Rosenholz - Hinoki
Taico 300 : Limba - Nussbaum - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Nussbaum - Limba

Tibhar Charly Roesch : Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi
Tibhar IV-L: Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi
Tibhar IV-L Light Contact: Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi
Tibhar Lucjan Blaszczyk : limba - limba - limba - limba - limba

TSP Break 9: 9 ply all hinoki
TSP Break 11: 11 ply all hinoki
TSP Hino-Carbon Power: Hinoki - Carbon - Hinoki - Carbon - Hinoki
TSP Phoenix Fire OFF: Koto - Awan - Kiri - Awan - Koto

Ulmo Duality: (FH=>BH) samba - balsa - poplar - poplar - poplar - balsa - mahogany

Xiom Amadeus: hinoki - limba - Abachi - Abachi - Abachi - limba - hinoki
Xiom Amati : limba - limba - carbon fleece - Abachi - carbon fleece - limba - limba uncertain
Xiom Aria: limba - spruce - Abachi - spruce - limba
Xiom Control: hinoki - aramid carbon - kiri - aramid carbon - hinoki
Xiom Fuga: koto - spruce - Abachi - spruce - koto
Xiom Hayabusa Zi: koto - limba - Zephylium - Abachi - Zephylium - limba - koto
Xiom Ignito: hinoki - energy/zeta carbon - kiri - energy/zeta carbon - hinoki
Xiom Jazz: hinoki - koto - Abachi - koto - hinoki
Xiom Maximus: limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Xiom Ovid : limba - limba - Abachi - limba - limba
Xiom Stradivarius: koto - aramid carbon - Abachi - kiri - Abachi - aramid carbon - koto


Yasaka Allround Plus: 5 Espen Furniere
Yasaka Extra: anegre - limba - Abachi - limba - anegre
Yasaka Extra Offensive: walnut - spruce - Abachi - spruce - walnut

Neu in der Liste:
- einige Hölzer hinzugefügt

[Trice]

Vom Samsonov Alpha gibt es im Internet verschiedene Versionen zu erwerben: eins mit blauen Griffschalen, eins mit grauen Griffschalen.

Weiss jemand, ob es Unterschiede in der Zusammensetzung dieser Hölzer gibt? Welches ist älter, welches neuer?

Ich habe Samsonov heute spielen gesehen, offenbar scheint er mit einem Samsonov alpha in blau zu spielen.

[Buddaa]

das grau ist die alte version und die wirst du nicht mehr/schwer bekommen . Der furnieraufbau ist aber der selbe nur das schlägerblatt ist etwas größer und der griff etwas anders.
und samsonov hat "Force Pro" Griffschalen was da drunter ist keine ahnung.