Hello from ITTF President

[Otterbock]

The ban should be reconsidered. It does exactly the opposite: Now more players treat their pimples than before the ban

[noppen-lord]

Dear Adham,
first let me say I am very happy that you take the time to answer all the questions soon and very good!! RESPECT.

You missunderstand my question if I ask how you want to controll the 25mN on a long pimple I mean how do you want to controll it at the table.
The procedur how it works to become on the ittf equipment list Odd told me once.
If you have some more time please look in a big auktiononlinehouse E..Y(germany) there you can buy hundreds of "tuned long pimples " which are all written on the ITTF equipment list.
They are complete without friction and make good Spinback like the old frictionless long pimples.
There must be a controll method at the table in the sporting hall which gives 100% results.

And Adham the rule is for all rubbers (ITTF T4) it is no where written only for long pimples.
Whats with the short pimples and ANTIS??
There is a misstake to correct nearly all short pimples are under 25mn for Antis I am not a specialist but I bet its the same!

At last let me say ITTF tolled us why they want the new minimum friction level:
We want to ban the tuning from the long pimple.........

Please dont forget to watch the online auktionshouse I tolled you and then, believe me, bevore banning the frictionless long pimples you found no one selling rubbers like this.

have a nice weekend regards

[Mighty]

Zitat von Otterbock

The ban should be reconsidered. It does exactly the opposite: Now more players treat their pimples than before the ban

The ban should not be reconsidered. New stronger bans should follow, because too many players treat their rubbers.

[Spinshot]

Dear Mr. Sharara,

I am very impressed and happy about the way you are participating in TT-NEWS!
It is not my intention to bore you with a lot of arguments already mentioned in this thread. To ban speed-glueing I see substantive arguments. Looking for them concerning the minimum-friction-rule, I can't found them!
Unfortunately I am affected by both rules. Nevertheless this obviousness it is not applicable to show my problems. I try to make my "explanation" as short as possible

- Now I'm 49years old.
- At the age of 14years I start to play table-tennis in a club.
- knowing about my low talent it was more a fortune to me to continue playing tabletennis after my youth. The most important reason to go on with table tennis was the idea to be able to play TT also advanced in years.
- After I had tried several playing-systems I found my one and its corresponding material. More or less unchanged I enjoyed TT for a long period of around 10 years.
- Primarily I don't recognize the big impact of th 40mm table tennis ball to my game.
- after years of testing, the solution for my forehand was now speed-glueing!
- my backhand game (with halflong pimple out) was destroyed completely. After a long lasting testing period it was only 2nd choice to fix the backhand-problem with a slippery long pimple. Never I get really happy with them, but it allows me to play in a vague similiar way like with the small ball.

- Now I have again the same problems as after the implementation of the 40mm ball - but now it seems I don't stand a chance to play a table tennis I like and gives me satisfaction.

Don't let us speak about my specific problems. Just as well it makes no sense to give me well meant suggestions. I know well about my possibilities and my limitations.
It is the first time ever I speak/write to anybody about my now basic problem and I'm not sure to be able to found a livable solution. In simple words, it is very close to give up my loved lifetime sport.

Please, there is no need to answer, think about.

With kind regards,
Nikolai Frederik Slomma

[apina4]

Zitat von Mighty

The ban should not be reconsidered. New stronger bans should follow, because too many players treat their rubbers.

Is seems that you misunderstood something here:
Players with frictionless long pimples havn't treated their rubbers at all in the past years. Why should they? These pimples were legal for many years! But now suddenly these pimples are forbidden and these players are punished for having used legal ITTF rubbers. Its same like forbidding antitops or short pimples. You can't compare this with the forbiddance of speed glueing or other after-treatment. Now a WHOLE own unique style of rubbers is suddenly not legal anymore for no reason. We have trained with these pimples for many years and adapted a style which is effective for these pimples. Now we can start from scratch again! Certain things can't be done at all with the "normal" pimples, e.g. blocks at the table. I have spent hundreds of Euros for testing other pimples, but I havn't found anything which I could play. I have totally fucked up my game with all the testing. I am a low level amateur and just want to play a little bit in my local level league and have some fun with my team.

I have never played illegal rubbers and never ever treated my rubbers! But now it seems that I am forced to buy illegal material...really sad

This is just not fair. I just want to play table-tennis with my type of rubber that I've played for many years. I think that I have the same rights as other players who want to play with their antitops, short pimples, long pimples with friction, inbound pimples...

That whole thing can't be true

[PLLsystem]

Zitat von Neptune

Harald, what's so unpredictable??? If someone uses frictionless long pimples you know excactly what happens. 1. Topspin - Backspin and 2. Chop - Topspin 3. dead ball - dead ball. That's it. So you as an inward pimpled player (I guess you are) can "read" and precisely define the game.

Neptune

I help you approach that why pips in players hate frictionless players: Tabletennis is the sport of anticipation so movements are very important to predict what will happen. Over certain level you dont wait the ball then move. You must predict what will happen to be able to play that level. When you use any frictionless you deceive your opponent. You are not better from a sport viewpoint. You just use a trick. It is like special mittens (boxing-gloves) that hits left hook when the boxer hits right straight.

[PLLsystem]

To Adham. Hello here too. I am the same that on MyTT.net.
Can you please clarify the Tensor ban? Will ITTF ban all the products contains tension. (all the recent products that marked the new ITTF logo and XX-YYY numbers like Tenergy05, Roxxon etc)

[Mighty]

Zitat von apina4

Is seems that you misunderstood something here:
Players with frictionless long pimples havn't treated their rubbers at all in the past years. Why should they? These pimples were legal for many years! But now suddenly these pimples are forbidden and these players are punished for having used legal ITTF rubbers. ...

I have never played illegal rubbers and never ever treated my rubbers! But now it seems that I am forced to buy illegal material...really sad

This is just not fair. I just want to play table-tennis with my type of rubber that I've played for many years. I think that I have the same rights as other players who want to play with their antitops, short pimples, long pimples with friction, inbound pimples...

There are two sides in this conflict.

Some players wanted to use frictionless pimples, they wanted them stay legal. Some other players didn't want to play against frictionless pimples (you are surely familiar with the word "Scheißnoppe") and they wanted them turn illegal.

This second type of players won the majority in ITTF.

Now some of the first type have been cheating. They just won't give up. Understandably the second type will try to win majority in ITTF for introducing new strickter bans.

It's just a matter of time.

[hanifah1]

Zitat von adham

Now let me ask you a question. Someone in the forum said that they were using long pimples (low friction) and since the ban they changed and they are frustrated by players beating them now that used to lose to them before. Well, what about the players that used to beat other players and then when confronted by the low-friction long pimples they started to lose. Did they quit TT?


Adham

Dear Mr. Sahara,

you can't compare that. A "frustated pimple In Player" play again a low-friction player 2 or 3 times a year. A low-friction player has to play every single game with his rubber.
If you like to compare, imagine that the pimple-in rubbers were ban.
So you had the same situation. The players have in this case to change their whole playing style.

It is not the frustrating to lose a "nice rubber", it is a disaster because the low-frictionplayers have to change their whole way to play !

That ist the reason, that the ITTF don't took attention before.

Now, it follows that nearly 50% take selfmade low-frictionrubber, thinking about stopping tabletennis or still stopped playing.

It really happening in the lower classes. By my own I know 4 peoples in my town they still quit table tennis. If you like, I can give you the names.... (if you like to have a proof to check).

Please change that wrong way.......




Sorry for my bad english.

[prof.noppe]

Dear Sir!
I am playing löng pips wihtout friction so many years and now the ITTF allöws them no more.Iam very angry about that.Whey does the ITTF tréat this way???
This Banning of frictionsless lomg pips is NOT acceptable.
If some people don´tlike that kimd of pips you MUST immediately forbit every rubber and just allow the old BARNA again:There will always be someone who doesn´t likr ruber A,B,C........

I also do not like to play against some players who play inverted, short pips,long pips(with or without friction)or antispin.SO WHAT???
It was always like that.Everybody is in that situation.

Please allow the frictionless pips A G A I N!!!



Best greetings from Germany