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| 03.01.2004 14:37 | ||
| Nosti49 |
Re: Which European can broke the power of the Asians? Hi All, I was just surfin' around in the WWW and found the actual ITTF ranking list valid for January 2004: 1 (<<) 2325 MA Lin CHN 2 (<<) 2311 WANG Liqin CHN 3 (4) 2209 WANG Hao CHN 4 (3) 2193 CHUAN Chih-Yuan TPE 5 (<<) 2123 SAMSONOV Vladimir BLR 6 (<<) 2103 BOLL Timo GER 7 (8) 2063 LIU Guozheng CHN 8 (11) 2054 CHEN Qi CHN 9 (7) 2052 KREANGA Kalinikos GRE 10 (12) 2033 RYU Seung Min KOR 11 (9) 2030 KONG Linghui CHN 12 (10) 2023 SCHLAGER Werner AUT 13 (12) 1981 CHIANG Peng-Lung TPE 14 (19) 1971 HAO Shuai CHN 15 (<<) 1968 OH Sang Eun KOR 16 (14) 1953 SMIRNOV Alexei RUS 17 (<<) 1896 JOO Se Hyuk KOR 18 (16) 1892 SAIVE Jean-Michel BEL 19 (20) 1885 QIU Yike CHN 20 (18) 1884 PRIMORAC Zoran HRV As you may see, the top 3 players are again Chinese players and 5 out of top ten are from China. It seems the Chinese won back their full leadership in the world. Which European could break this leadership in the near future ??? Ciao Norbert |
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| 17.01.2003 17:53 | ||
| Hülser |
Re: Süß Zitat:
In my opinion there's only one player who can (or is) stop(ing) the domination of the asian's: Timo Boll. |
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| 28.11.2002 01:13 | ||
| acq |
Tansincos question has been answered more then once already; there is no need to ask for players who could threaten the chinese powerhouse, as players like Boll, Schlager and a few others do it constantly on the tour and in big tourneys. A questionmark remains for the swedes though; obviously Lundqvist has improved this year, maybe he even passed Molin, but is that enough for a country with a major tradition of top players? I don't really see the rising stars in the generation born 82-85. R.Svensson and C.Asamoah were good juniors, but they seem to struggle taking the next step (assuming that the next step has to be becoming a top-player). J. Axelqvist was a good junior as well, but is he world class material? I don't think so. D. Ovtcharov of Germany is maybe on his way to become Germanys next star after Boll. E.g. Germany has quite a few good juniors coming up, which should make officials in other countries curious on how talents are supported there. |
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| 25.11.2002 11:13 | ||
| Marcus, TTReisen |
We've got some answers to Tansincos' question now, haven't we!? First of all, Staindmaus is right. The question should be: Who'll be NEXT - after Samsonov, Schlager, and especially Boll? But the other names in Tansincos' list are not bad either. Well, some are missing, of course - like Crisan, Lundquist, the 2 Monteiros, Kosowski, Gorak, and Kuzmin -, but - Molin DID beat the World Champion, and - I was wondering, too, but: he was not completely wrong with Varin, was he, albatross!? Eric at least beat Qin Zhijian. @Tansi: How did you come to think of Quentel? @Jörg: What are "furtherances"? Förderungen? :-) But to your question "Why are the Asians Player so strong?": First of all, don't forget: In men's tabletennis, only the Chinese are stronger than the Europeans, and only there tt is so much more popular. In Japan, for example it is not (at all). So, always think about: Just like in Europe, countries in Asia are quite different from each other, too. Therefore, what DAD writes about the European countries, partly is wrong and partly applies to Korea and Japan, too. Then, I'd like to summarise and add some answers: * Since there is a big tradition of table tennis AND they are such a huge population (more than 15 times the one of Germany or 150 times the one of Sweden!!), - There are just many more players to choose from in China - The interest in tt in general, it's popularity is much higher => more players can make (more) money with it = bigger incentive to become a professional player - Because of that, plus because many Chinese have not AS many alternatives for their leisure time, plus because they do have the mentality to focus on ONE thing, they practice harder and more. - There also is an even bigger mentality of looking for success - at all costs. So many parents do focus on that one thing, to make their children become good at something (see Staindmaus) @Sascha: Why do you think that "in a few years there won´t be as many european topplayers as now"? a) Don't generalise! The circumstances in "the rest of the world" are definitely not better than in Europe. In all of America, Africa, Oceania, and western Asia they are much worse, and in the east Asian countries except (the) China(s), only similar. b) The circumstances in China (see above) have already been so much better in the past. |
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| 19.11.2002 12:02 | ||
| User 2969 |
An idea?? @Coach: Well, even if you seem to be right concerning some aspects, I am curious, anyways,.. What would you suggest to do so?! I am just asking because, hopefully, you don't expect us to follow the asian model of looking for four year olds, (just not being toddlers anymore) who have to give their childhood away just for the satisfaction of some weird parents or coaches who need them for their own success... ( I don't want to say that it is generally this way, but...well, everyone has his own brain.. Would you concretise your opininon please  Saludos 
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| 04.11.2002 21:36 | ||
| James_for_Germany | Take a look at the World Cup... | |
| 04.11.2002 20:32 | ||
| WirbelWind |
Jinan showed how much Boll can do. Maybe he can more??? He won against the best players of the world (Wang...). To my mind Boll broke the dominance of Asia. Now Asia has to react... Please excuse my mistakes. I'm a pupil und PISA showed much much we can... . |
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| 19.10.2002 19:15 | ||
| Coach | If the europeans don`t change their training and the way, how to find talents, they will never become better. | |
| 05.10.2002 10:51 | ||
| DADS |
European player to kick Asian ass? I think it will take a few more years before Europeans kick Asians on the head. China, Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong are powerhouses with very deep benches. On the other hand, take a look at the European teams. Except for Sweden, the likes of Belarus, Germany, Denmark, Greece, and France have only about one or two players who may be considered even remotely dangerous. |
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| 25.09.2002 11:59 | ||
| User 2969 |
reply @ Zertrümmerer.. Hey, this sounds pretty agressive, oooh, sorry, I just saw where you are from. Well, honestly, maybe, you were right, he did a great job in the last few years, so, ..  I agree!
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